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Vegetables from Northwest China

Jiangshui (Gansu and Shaanxi flour-water sour)浆水

Jiangshui is a sour liquid made by covering scalded wild greens with warm water left from boiling noodles and two ladles of old jiangshui as starter. It is ready in three to five days, and Lactobacillus dominated the three samples studied by sequencing. In the northwest, and above all in Gansu, it is a seasoning loved in summer.

Fully documentedVegetables3 days – 5 days

Recipe

Amounts from a sourceHousehold crock with no fixed amounts (People's Daily 2024); the starter is two ladles of old jiangshui.
Old jiangshui (浆水引子), borrowed from a neighbour2 ladlesThe starter[rmrb2024]
Wild kuju (野苦苣), washed and blanched[rmrb2024]
Warm noodle water (清面汤)Must carry no trace of fat or meat[rmrb2024]
Starterbackslop (two ladles of old jiangshui, jiangshui yinzi, borrowed from a neighbour)

Total time across the recorded steps: 3 days – 5 days

Start
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What changes: Washed greens are scalded in boiling water

Step 1 of 4
Blanch the greens
Time
Not documented
Temperature
Not documented
Salt
None given
Acidity
Not documented
Which microbes the steps name, step by step
Lactic acid bacteria
Lactobacillus
Lactobacillus fermentum
P. ethanolidurans
Flavour
Not documented
Texture
Not documented
Colour
Not documented

Microbes at work in this step

Not documented for this step.

Method

Measured measured in a studySet fixed by a specification or tested recipeReported one source reports itTypical a general value, not sourced for this fermentUnconfirmed not yet checked against a source

At a glance

Jiangshui is a sour liquid made by covering scalded wild greens with warm water left from boiling noodles and two ladles of old jiangshui as starter. It is ready in three to five days, and Lactobacillus dominated the three samples studied by sequencing. In the northwest, and above all in Gansu, it is a seasoning loved in summer. Made in 4 steps over 3 days – 5 days. The longest step, ferment, takes 3–5 days (Zhang Shengrong 2024). Salt is 0.1–0.3 % (Wei B 2019). Lactic acid bacteria, mainly Lactobacillus and Lactobacillus fermentum, Pediococcus ethanolidurans and Lactobacillus parafarraginis, the dominant species in jiangshui from Shaanxi and Gansu do most of the fermenting.

Key numbers
Main step3–5 daysReported[rmrb2024][s1]Ferment
Salt0.1–0.3 %Measured[wei2019]Ferment
AciditypH 3.3–4Measured[wei2019]Ferment

What makes this one different

Unlike salted vegetable pickles, jiangshui is soured noodle-cooking water with blanched greens, started from an old batch and kept going like a sourdough.

Related ferments

Safety

One study of Gansu jiangshui measured nitrite at 2.76 mg/kg after 72 h, below the requirement in GB 2714-2003, and showed that lactic acid bacteria lower nitrite. Spoilage bacteria and possible opportunistic pathogens were detected in each of three samples. A home maker (People's Daily) says the crock and ladle are washed and dried first, the noodle water must carry no fat or meat, and the jiangshui spoils if left too long without being eaten.

Hazards the sources name: Spoilage bacteria and possible (opportunistic) pathogens, found in every sample.

History and sources

Every number is labelled with how it is known. How this atlas is made

A household ferment of the northwest; in summer people "eat jiangshui when it is hot and vinegar when it is cold" (People's Daily 2024).

  1. [s1] Jia Y.-L., Yun J.-M., Ai D.-Y. et al. 2016, Nitrite dynamics analysis during Gansu traditional jiangshui fermentation processing, Current Biotechnology (生物技术进展) 6(1):59–66 (abstract)paper
  2. [wei2019] Wei B., Liu C., Xiao Y., Peng Z., Huang T., Guan Q., Xiong T. 2019, 基于Illumina HiSeq技术分析浆水中细菌多样性及理化性质 (bacterial diversity and physicochemical properties of jiangshui by Illumina HiSeq), Food Science (Shipin Kexue) 40(6):62-68 (abstract)paper
  3. [rmrb2024] Zhang Shengrong 2024, 浆水鱼鱼 (美味馆), People's Daily, 18 September 2024web
  4. [spkx2017] Zhang X., Yang J., Wang S., Wang J., Fan M., Wei X. 2017, Bacterial diversity analysis and isolation and identification of lactic acid bacteria from jiangshui, a traditional Chinese fermented vegetable product, Food Science (Shipin Kexue) 38(4):70 (abstract)paper